Friday, June 28, 2024

A SHAMBLES .....EMBARRASING ..............

As a non American .....watching the  shambles was a shambles /embarrassing/......and you go and  vote  .......for this  pony show audience ....contrived / got nothing achieved ......apart from golf  talk ........America is  a laughing stock and is being sold everyday bit by bit/piece by piece/....and one day we will wake up to being  sold out ......china is buying more ......and more   ....... here  every day .......they own Smithfield's  farms ...the largest .... the pig people  who churn out meat ...... Chinese .......meat.....sorry folks  not my thing.........  it is  not a   good  mixture....... when you say Chinese.......... and meat....... in the  same  saying/sentence /breath/conversation ........i get dubious is their reputation .....however  .......i do not vote  ....never have ....never  will is a pure  scam...... for the  afraid/masses.......... and those who  care  and  love  getting fucked over ......haven't you noticed...... those  who care and  love the most  ....get fucked the most .......on everything in life's a fact .......people who always fall in love....... are the ones  that are always getting fucked over........ and over .........and over what point  ......... do you not realize ......... its  a  foolish intent ......  invented  solely for the purpose of  money .......most people  who foolishly love others ....... do not   love themselves ....and seek to fill the void in others ......

Shit!!! always i have strayed of track .....on this  political punch and judy shit show was  bad......  as bad   could be  .....embarrassing as  fuck was  tame/ contrived /and  vanilla/bland/boring .........
Unfortunately joe.....  aka hair plug...... dumb fuck biden .....was wrong ...... America is not  feared at all ........ it  is   being laughed...... at and  sold off .......  everyday by this pandering fuck .......and  what as at the root of  this  evil green stuff/the almighty dollar.. .......the writing is one the  walls ....either way in November ....there will be  no winners ......either  way  there is  going to be  bernard/barney /barney rubble /trouble ........November is  going to   be epic  madness ......donald  will not  let go ...... he is a  pitbull he does not like losing at all ........even the  golf  game  got brought in .......hey!!!!!!.........maybe they should play golf  for the  presidency .......winner takes all....right !!!!!winner winner  chicken dinner......that would prove it  golf....... they both seem to like it   so whoever  is the  best at golf....would be best at president ........

How did Trump and Biden do in the presidential debate? 3 takeaways from 2024's 1st big clash.

Andrew RomanoNational Correspondent
6 min read

A lot has changed in the 1,344 days since President Biden and former President Donald Trump last debated.

Biden won the White House. Trump refused to accept his loss. Trump’s supporters attacked the U.S. Capitol. The COVID-19 pandemic came and went. Inflation climbed to 9.1%, then fell to just over 3%. Russia invaded Ukraine. Israel invaded Gaza. Biden turned 81. Trump turned 78. Trump was criminally indicted four times, and convicted once.

Yet somehow, the campaign seems to have picked up right where it left off. Biden is the Democratic nominee, Trump is the Republican nominee — and despite everything that’s happened, they’re still deadlocked in the polls.

Which is why Thursday night’s rematch at the CNN studios in Atlanta was such a big deal. In a world of partisan echo chambers and social media silos — a world where most Americans have dismissed the 2024 race as a tired rerun and tuned out its overfamiliar protagonists — a live, televised debate is one of the last moments with the power to actually change anyone’s vote.

So how did Trump and Biden do? Here are three takeaways from this year’s first presidential face-off.

Biden struggled to show his age doesn’t matter

Biden speaks at a podium.
Biden speaks during the debate. (Gerald Herbert/AP)

In truth, presidential debates aren’t really debates at all. They’re more like media manipulation moments: high-profile opportunities for the candidates to seize the national spotlight, however briefly, and use it for their own purposes.

Biden’s mission Thursday night was high-risk, high-reward: to appear under the hot TV lights for 90 unscripted minutes and show concerned Americans — many of whom have seen little of him recently, except in selectively edited online videos — that he’s not too old to serve another term.

Because Biden isn’t just the oldest president in U.S. history; he’s asking the country to keep him in the White House until the age of 86 — about eight years longer than Ronald Reagan, who left office just before his 78th birthday.

Even Biden’s supporters are admitting that he struggled Thursday night. Reportedly fighting a cold, the president looked uneasy and sounded hoarse. Right from the start, he was tripping over words and trying to cover his verbal missteps; at one point, he lost his train of thought entirely.

“We’ve been able to make sure,” Biden said, “all those things we need to do — child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we’re able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I’ve been able to do with the COVID ... excuse me, dealing with everything we have to do with…”

Biden looked down. “If,” he continued, pausing a few more seconds, “we finally beat Medicare.”

“I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence,” Trump snapped a few minutes later. “I don’t think he knows either.”

Biden sharpened his focus as the debate wore on. “You’re the sucker and you’re the loser,” he told Trump at one point, turning his opponent’s alleged words about fallen U.S. soldiers against him. “You have the morals of an alley cat,” he said later.

But these debates have long been decided not by who scores the most points but by who creates the most memorable moments — for better or for worse. Think of Lloyd Bentsen in 1988 (“Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy”) or Rick Perry in 2012 (“Oops”).

Fair? Not really. But that’s how U.S. politics works. And it’s not hard to imagine a new round of unflattering Biden clips circulating soon — along with a new round of Democratic anxiety about his prospects in November.

The new format made it hard to keep up with Trump’s false claims

Trump on the debate stage.
Trump on the debate stage on Thursday. (Gerald Herbert/AP)

“This guy is three years younger, and I think a lot less competent,” Biden said when the CNN moderators asked how he might reassure voters about his age.

If the debate were being judged solely on the basis of who seemed younger — more “with it” — it would be no contest. Trump was his usual boisterous self.

But Biden was right: There are other measures of a president. On the merits, Trump didn’t have a great debate Thursday night either. About halfway through, he actually said the words, “I didn’t have sex with a porn star” — a first for a presidential candidate.

Overall, Trump’s strategy was simply to spew more shallow superlatives than anyone could keep up with. His economy was “the greatest economy in the history of our country.” His environmental numbers were “the best environmental numbers ever.” His tax cut was "the largest tax cut in history.” Overturning Roe v. Wade was “something that everybody wanted.” And so on.

The problem is that much of what Trump said was untrue.

Biden tried to fact-check his opponent in real time. “I’ve never heard so much malarkey in my life,” Biden said after Trump accused him of enabling Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. “Every single thing he said is a lie,” Biden said after Trump attacked his position on veterans’ benefits. “It isn’t debunked,” Biden said when Trump tried to deny that Biden's 2020 run was inspired by the deadly white supremacist riots in Charlottesville, Va. three years earlier. “I ran because I was worried a guy like this could be president.”

But Biden wasn’t deft enough to pivot from correcting falsehoods to making a clear, proactive case for his own campaign. And the debate’s polite new format — with each candidate’s microphone muted when it was the other’s turn to speak — didn’t do him any favors.

Meanwhile, the moderators floated above the fray, declining to speak up and set the record straight — unlike in earlier, more fluid debates.

As a result, Trump largely skated by on style, making little effort to appeal to swing voters who couldn’t care less about, say, Hunter Biden’s laptop.

A revealing exchange on abortion

Trump gestures as he speaks at the podium.
Trump speaks during the presidential debate on Thursday. (Gerald Herbert/AP)

Which isn’t to say Thursday’s debate was completely devoid of substance. One particular exchange on abortion stood out.

Clearly rattled by a string of Republican losses in states with hard-line abortion bans on the ballot, Trump made a point of saying he wouldn’t “block” the “abortion pill” mifepristone if reelected; noted that he supports “exceptions” for “rape, incest and life of the mother” because “you gotta get elected”; and tried to frame his role in overturning Roe v. Wade and sending the issue back to the states as a win-win for everybody.

“The country is coming together,” Trump claimed.

But Biden — who is hoping that opposition to the end of Roe motivates otherwise unenthusiastic Democrats to turn out in November — wasn’t having it.

“That’s like sending civil rights back to the states,” the president said. “If I’m elected, I’m gonna restore Roe v. Wade.

“What’s he going to do if MAGA Republicans [in Congress] pass a six-week, seven-week ban?” Biden continued. “He’ll sign it. I’ll veto it.”

It was a reminder during a difficult night that Biden still has the upper hand on some issues. The question now is whether his push to debate earlier than ever before will pay off — both by giving voters more time to remember things like that, and to forget the rest of his performance.

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  Not sure about the rest of you all ........but when it comes to handcuffs!  .......i trust no  fucker ...... ever ......never